Comments on: Table of Contents http://blog.invisible.ch/2005/09/29/table-of-contents/ Technology and Psychology -- two facets of life Fri, 30 Jul 2010 19:48:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Karsten W. Rohrbach http://blog.invisible.ch/2005/09/29/table-of-contents/comment-page-1/#comment-659 Karsten W. Rohrbach Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 http://bla.invisible.ch/?p=460#comment-659 <p>One word: TeX</p> One word: TeX

]]> By: Jens-Christian Fischer http://blog.invisible.ch/2005/09/29/table-of-contents/comment-page-1/#comment-660 Jens-Christian Fischer Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 http://bla.invisible.ch/?p=460#comment-660 <p>re-read the last sentence ;-)</p> re-read the last sentence ;-)

]]> By: Nicole Simon http://blog.invisible.ch/2005/09/29/table-of-contents/comment-page-1/#comment-661 Nicole Simon Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 http://bla.invisible.ch/?p=460#comment-661 <p>Well, as Words enters a toc very neatly, I suspect you have not set up the elements which should be in it in the needed manor aka as headlines of the different nummers (headline 1-3).</p> <p>Which can easily accomplished by going to a headline, and press accordingly alt-1 to 3, just to make sure it is really set to 1-3 (or deeper.)</p> <p>Once that is done, you can then one time (or do it before starting that) change the layout rule for headings and reapply it to every heading and if you then choose "insert - reference - index and xx" (sorry, only got the german one here), you will get a toc as you desire.</p> <p>The only times this did not work in all of my time helping people out with word was always that they did use their hammer as a screwdriver and complained that it did not work. AKA you may know programming, but I somehow doubt from your comment, that oyu know how to work with Word. :)</p> <p>Mail me, if you need more help. ;)</p> Well, as Words enters a toc very neatly, I suspect you have not set up the elements which should be in it in the needed manor aka as headlines of the different nummers (headline 1-3).

Which can easily accomplished by going to a headline, and press accordingly alt-1 to 3, just to make sure it is really set to 1-3 (or deeper.)

Once that is done, you can then one time (or do it before starting that) change the layout rule for headings and reapply it to every heading and if you then choose “insert – reference – index and xx” (sorry, only got the german one here), you will get a toc as you desire.

The only times this did not work in all of my time helping people out with word was always that they did use their hammer as a screwdriver and complained that it did not work. AKA you may know programming, but I somehow doubt from your comment, that oyu know how to work with Word. :)

Mail me, if you need more help. ;)

]]> By: Jens-Christian Fischer http://blog.invisible.ch/2005/09/29/table-of-contents/comment-page-1/#comment-662 Jens-Christian Fischer Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 http://bla.invisible.ch/?p=460#comment-662 <p>Thanks Nicole - but I "think" I have the structure set up correctly. I have the Headings (Ãœberschrift 1-3) defined in the text and they actually show up in the TOC. The problem I'm struggling with is the formatting of the TOC itself. I get numberings that are totally off:</p> <ol> <li>Heading 1 <ol><li>subheading 1.1</li> <li>subheading 1.2</li></ol></li> <li>Heading 2 <ol><li>subheading 2.1</li> <li>subheading 2.2</li></ol></li> </ol> <p>and so on (so the second level headings are numbered through, not restarting at 1. after each heading. Also I can't seem to get Word to display the level 2 headings as 1.1, 1.2, 2.1, 2.2 etc.</p> <p>I'm totally struggling with the Numbering dialog which is (for me) totally counterintuitive.</p> <p>I go to the "style formatting-dialog" for TOC1 (2, 3, whatever) and set fonts, paragraphs etc. Then there's the formatting options for numbering which seem to work globally, not only for the currently selected style. In this dialog it seems that I can define things for all TOC styles, but they aren't sticking. </p> <p>I simply don't understand how the TOC style definitions work. Do I have to set those definitions for all TOC styles? Do I need to set them once? Why are some changes not sticking? (There's one where you can select the "previous level" and it offers "Ebene 1" if I work on the TOC 2 style (or both Ebene 1 and Ebene 2 in TOC 3). But selecting "Ebene 1" doesn't stick. It's not selected.</p> <p>I probably need a really simple introduction into this. And yes, I know quite a bit more about programming than about Word. (But I know how to apply styles and not do any formatting by hand)</p> Thanks Nicole – but I “think” I have the structure set up correctly. I have the Headings (Ãœberschrift 1-3) defined in the text and they actually show up in the TOC. The problem I’m struggling with is the formatting of the TOC itself. I get numberings that are totally off:

  1. Heading 1
    1. subheading 1.1
    2. subheading 1.2
  2. Heading 2
    1. subheading 2.1
    2. subheading 2.2

and so on (so the second level headings are numbered through, not restarting at 1. after each heading. Also I can’t seem to get Word to display the level 2 headings as 1.1, 1.2, 2.1, 2.2 etc.

I’m totally struggling with the Numbering dialog which is (for me) totally counterintuitive.

I go to the “style formatting-dialog” for TOC1 (2, 3, whatever) and set fonts, paragraphs etc. Then there’s the formatting options for numbering which seem to work globally, not only for the currently selected style. In this dialog it seems that I can define things for all TOC styles, but they aren’t sticking.

I simply don’t understand how the TOC style definitions work. Do I have to set those definitions for all TOC styles? Do I need to set them once? Why are some changes not sticking? (There’s one where you can select the “previous level” and it offers “Ebene 1″ if I work on the TOC 2 style (or both Ebene 1 and Ebene 2 in TOC 3). But selecting “Ebene 1″ doesn’t stick. It’s not selected.

I probably need a really simple introduction into this. And yes, I know quite a bit more about programming than about Word. (But I know how to apply styles and not do any formatting by hand)

]]> By: Karsten W. Rohrbach http://blog.invisible.ch/2005/09/29/table-of-contents/comment-page-1/#comment-663 Karsten W. Rohrbach Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 http://bla.invisible.ch/?p=460#comment-663 <p>Pages would be a viable alternative, too... ;-) (and, yes, I read your last sentence)</p> Pages would be a viable alternative, too… ;-)
(and, yes, I read your last sentence)

]]> By: Jens-Christian Fischer http://blog.invisible.ch/2005/09/29/table-of-contents/comment-page-1/#comment-664 Jens-Christian Fischer Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 http://bla.invisible.ch/?p=460#comment-664 <p>Sorry - forgot to mention that this is but one step in converting a document written with RoboHelp XML to Word to PDF.</p> <p>So we are talking Windows here. </p> <p>However, thanks both to Nicole and Tanja (what would I do without women in my life) I think I understand how formatting works for TOC.</p> <p>I will put my knowledge to a real life test at the end of the week and hope to create the "definitive developers guide to formatting Word TOCs" soon after.</p> Sorry – forgot to mention that this is but one step in converting a document written with RoboHelp XML to Word to PDF.

So we are talking Windows here.

However, thanks both to Nicole and Tanja (what would I do without women in my life) I think I understand how formatting works for TOC.

I will put my knowledge to a real life test at the end of the week and hope to create the “definitive developers guide to formatting Word TOCs” soon after.

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